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Proving the Existence of God Discuss this topic at our message board. I am 100% a Christian and beleive in God. Like many of you Im sure you have been asked to PROVE the existence of God. Or maybe you have even wanted to prove it just for your own assurance. I have been thinking and reading on the subject of quantum physics, space-time theories, etc... and I think the following is a very good case to argue the existence of God to someone. I will warn you it is a bit on the scientific and mathmatics side so you might have some trouble explaining this one. Here it is: ---------- One of the most distinguishing characteristics of God and the thing that sets him appart from any of us is the fact that he is omniscant. That is, he can BE in ALL places at the exact same time. He can cover a distance of infinity in 0 time units. The speed of light is about 300,000 Kl/second. If you were able to travel that fast and zoom from New York City to Boston back and forth over and over again it would appear to an observer that you were in both places(and everywhere in between) at the same time. Its like a humming bird's wing. It goes so fast that it appears to be in many places at once. Of course it isn't, that is just an illusion. But if you were able to break the light barrier and travel a distance of infinity in 0 time units you would actually take up all of space in a single instant. You would be travelling so fast that you would exist everywhere. Now the question is: How can somthing go THAT fast. Here's how... A pendulum is any body of matter that moves in a back and forth motion over and over again. Pendulums on clocks are one example. But anything can be a pendulum wether it swings or not. Just as long as it moves in a back and forth motion. A general rule of physics states that as a pendulum reaches the outermost position of its path it will begin to slow down and will eventually stop. It will completely stop all movement for a breif period of time and then resume speed as it moves to the other side. This is very significant. Matter is in a constant state of motion. Even though you can't see a table moving, its atoms are vibrating at the atomic scale. Studies have proven that atoms actually vibrate at a rate of about 100,000,000,000,000,000,000 motions a second. An atom is actually a very very fast moving pendulum. There is a rule in physics that states that you can never know the exact position of anything. Once you find its position it will have already moved somewhere else. The rule says the more you know about an objects position, the less you know about its velocity, and vice versa. Remember how I said above that at a pendulums outermost position it will momentarilly stop moving. It will for a VERY breif instance have a VELOCITY of 0. Remember the rule in the above paragraph? The more you know about an objects velocity the less you know about its postion in space. The only time that the velocity of matter can be totally measured is at the outermost position on a pendulum. According to the rule, if you know the EXAXT velocity of an object (at the end of a pedulum swing it is exactly 0) then the POSITION of the object can be anything. That is, it can be ANYWHERE in the universe. It can actually cross any distance in 0 time units. As soon as the pendulum resumes motion then the velocity cannot be totally measured and therefore we can be fairly sure of the objects postion in space. At 0 velocity an object can be anywhwere in space in 0 time units. This is the basis for Quantum Physics and what I believe defines how the omnipresence of God is possible. Remember God created this universe. He set up all the rules of Physics for a reason. Remember how earlier I said that an atom is actually a very fast moving pendulum? It vibrates at a rate of 100,000,000,000,000,000,000 motions a second. At each end of those motions that atom will momentarily expand outward to the edge of the universe in 0 time units, and then instantly return. When these atoms expand they still exhibit the same attributes as atoms in a normal vibratory state. They will still emit waves of energy. So what does all this have to do with God? You may have heard some people explain gravity by using the image of a rubber sheet stretched taut over a frame that represents the universe. They would then place a heavy steel ball in the center to represent the sun. Then they would roll a small marble(the Earth) over the sheet. The depression in the rubber sheet caused by the heavy steek ball(sun) would cause the marble(earth) to begin spiraling around it. This is a fairly accurate model, but the one thing most scientists fail to realize is that the steel ball is puts a depression in the rubber sheet because the earth(the real earth, not the marble) is pulling down on it from underneath. Try the same experiment up in space in the shuttle and it wouldnt work. THe balls would just float. The universe needs a universal(no pun intended) gravitational pull. It would have to be a pull of imense power since it would be what keeps the universe together. But how could such a thing exist? 99.999999% of the universe is empty space. Recently scientists came across a new strange type of matter that is different than anything they had seen before. This strange type of matter actually takes up that 99.999999% of the universe where there is empty space. The matter is spread out incredibly thin, but there is ALOT of it, a whole lot of it. In fact the total weight of this very fine matter is far greater than all the other matter in the entire universe. It is the "earth" that holds down the rubber sheet that is the universe. They also saw that this matter exhibited some very strange behaviors. Like atoms they also vibrated at a very fast rate. The odd thing was that they were vibrating in sync with each other. They were pulsating in complete unison. As it turns out, alot of scientists think that this strange matter is actually all connect to a central atom in the middle of the universe. That this matter is actually a by-product of the quantum expansion of the central atom. Now this is where it gets really interesting... They found that despite the chaotic nature of these electrical patterns there was an underlying order to them. They exhibited orginizational capabilities and could even reproduce a string of patterns which displayed an ability for memory. It wasas if this strange matter that covered the entire universe acted like a giant brain. Some have speculated whether or not this proves the existance of a greater intelligence that basically controls everything. Im not going to take a side on that, but I do think the 1st model proves that God can indeed posess omnipresent capabilites. And if we accept that this strange matter is his "brain" it would show how he could also be omniobservant. That is how he can listen to millions of prayers all at the same time and address each one with personal care. Anyway....just thought I would spark some lively debate and discussion. If you have any comments or questions feel free to email me at sean@zfx.com Oh yeah, I forgot to mention, if any of you out there are physics buffs feel free to correct any errors you see. I'm only 18 and havn't lived long enough to know everything....but I'm trying. Sean Cannon [Editors note- Don't take any of the comments in this article personally. 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